Get Messy Art Podcast

Dance Naked in Perfection’s Face with T Grey

Together with Caylee Grey and guests, we’ll explore what it REALLY means to be an artist. Practically. Warts and all. So that you can be an artist, today, now, even if you work a day job, have a million and one commitments and own a cat that likes sitting on your art.

No more excuses. Okay? Okay.

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Every guest I have on the podcast is my favourite, but this is my favourite favourite and most exciting. It’s someone who excites me every day. My husband, T Grey. We’re talking about what it’s like being on the other side of someone who lives life creatively. We get into the way his logical, rock solid, INTJ brain sees art, and his evil plans for not allowing me to own all the dogs I want to own.

Podcast Show Notes

We discuss:

  • Artist Cohabitation with T Grey and Terrell Hooper on How She Creates
  • what it’s like being a logical, stable engineer living with an artist
  • what a logical, stable engineer has learned from art
  • the joy in something that you have to do
  • the end result vs. the process
  • project-based goals and 100 day projects
  • making things “not a mission”
  • the similarities between running and art making
  • self-indulgence vs. giving yourself grace
  • Kesh on YouTube
  • progression vs. checklists
  • selfishness and taking the time to make art and feeling guilty about making art
  • the flow of productivity
  • living for the small things
  • ending your day with excitement and Hemingway:

When I am working on a book or a story I write every morning as soon after first light as possible. There is no one to disturb you and it is cool or cold and you come to your work and warm as you write. You read what you have written and, as you always stop when you know what is going to happen next, you go on from there.

You write until you come to a place where you still have your juice and know what will happen next and you stop and try to live through until the next day when you hit it again. You have started at six in the morning, say, and may go on until noon or be through before that.

When you stop you are as empty, and at the same time never empty but filling, as when you have made love to someone you love. Nothing can hurt you, nothing can happen, nothing means anything until the next day when you do it again. It is the wait until the next day that is hard to get through.

T Grey

I am the T. Support character of the Fairy Artmother, who is the support character for Messians. Perpetually fighting Caylee's dream to have many ugly dogs. Fan of art, reading, pc games, crypto, boardgames, Caylee and Elliot.

Caylee Grey, host of Get Messy

The Get Messy Podcast

I'm Caylee Grey. Creator of Get Messy, official fairy freaking artmother and your pro excuse-squashing ninja.

In the Get Messy podcast I’ll be chatting to a selection of amazing, real-life humans just like you are who are dealing with the very same barriers … but overcoming them to create their art.

Together, we’ll explore what it REALLY means to be an artist. Practically. Warts and all. So that you can be an artist, today, now, even if you work a day job, have a million and one commitments and own a cat that likes sitting on your art.

No more excuses. Okay? Okay.